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Dann schnallen Sie sich an! Schon der Anblick einer kurvigen Strecke bereitet Ihnen gute Laune? So frustrating!!! Now they expect me to Work for the Dole.. Is this a plan the govt. Wate of money and time sometimes…but i know they do employ some very good people. I hope you find the right ones. Wait till they hear themselves on the recording and their weak spineless personalities show through.

Human rights , anit-discrimination will listen. The Dept. Recording a conversation without the consent of the participants is an offence in all states and territories of Australia. Following through on this juvenile revenge fantasy will almost certainly be more trouble than its worth.

They both see the unemployed as criminals. If they really want to save money then instead of taking it off welfare recipients, they need to get rid of these useless agencies. They have never found me a job.

Then they had the hide to claim money from te government for finding me a job. I disagree that it is just the policies they must work with that make the way unemployed people with disabilities and chronic illnesses are treated. Organisations should be training their workers in person-centred approaches to care.

They are employing people without experience in working alongside people with disabilities and this is reflected in the behaviour of those employees.

I have had four different workers over the past 4 years and not one of them has taken the time to understand my health issues.

One tried to send me off to work in the mines doing 12 hour shifts, 9 days on, 4 days off. It takes me longer to walk from the carpark to their office than the time they spend with me when I get there.

The current ones have not referred me to a single job, yet I have to report my income to them so they get paid once I start work later this month.

I asked if it was possible to get some help to pay for physiotherapy and acupuncture as the orthopedic surgeon I saw recommended that as a way of managing my pain. I disagree with your assertion that we have power. We can request a change of provider and we can give them negative feedback when the survey from Centrelink comes, but apart from that we have no power. Yes, we can vote for a change of government, but perhaps many of us who are impacted by these appalling policies already vote for Labor.

Its ok for the agencies and centerlink to say you are able to work for 15 hours, but how productive will you be, will you require extended time off work to address health conditions, will it cause you further harm by trying to meet expectation? Yes you ,might be able to do as they say but how long can you sustain it. Are the places of work funded to employee you, and will they continue to be able or willing to meet your special needs when the funding depletes?

Would an employer employ you with your health problems over someone equally as qualified that has no issues? I thiink not, its all bogus!

There is no human element involved a dangerous game the powers that be are playing with human lives, adding burden the the health services. These Clowns are Bullshit, my current provider is trying to send me to a job thats 2.

Unfortunately, as always, minorities lost and they got in anyway. So what else can we do? The whole system is a mess. To them all we are is a scapegoat. If the country has problems, they blame it on the unemployed, disabled and other minorities. If the country has money problems, they tax the poor. So all we can really do is vent out how crap it is and keep surviving. Hope that we can still have an income and a roof over our heads at the end of each week despite how unreachable the expectations that are put on us are.

Hi Anon, i read your post, yes you did vote for the liberals to get kicked out, and so did alot of other australians, and thay only got back in by the skin of there teeth, and the only reason that happen, was because the liberals had such a large majority of the votes when labor was booted out, the last election the the liberals were very lucky, the amount ppl that went against the liberals on the last election was huge, that says something, the ppl dont like the liberals and there polacies, lots of ppl asking to pay money back that there defective computer programs, sending out letters claiming ppl own money, with no real right to defend your self due to many different reason, the only power you have, AND NEVER GIVE IT UP.

IS THE VOTE, thats when the poor can talk, its the only power the ppl realy have over the goverment, next election vote again, vote them out there will be more ppl doing the same. I will agree that I hope Liberal get kicked out next election. They only care about themselves, and the big companies, not the Australian people.

I just hope that things can be fixed, life is so much harder then it used to be. Kevin Rudds wife owned a lot of employment agency type companies. He is responsible for the current situation. This stuff was implemented before John Howard was elected. I attempted to contact my service provider multiple times to let them know I would be unable to attend my last appointment. I called twice and when noone answered, I was prompted to record a message and press the pound key to save it.

I havent seen a pound key on a phone in like 15 years so I had no idea which key that is. I then googled them and emailed the address listed on their website. The email was returned to me by their mail server stating that I am not on their authorised senders list. Neither my provider nor centerlink attempted to contact me to ensure no reasonable excuse for missing the appointment existed. I have recieved no calls, SMS, emails, postal mail or my. This website is a godsend. I otherwise would not have known centerlink and my job provider have both failed to meet their obligations to me.

Centrelink is impossible to get a hold of too. I am Stream A and more than capable of getting a job for myself and I am fulfilling my obligations, getting interviews etc. My issue is I booked an overseas trip for more than a month a year ago whilst working and now that is approaching and although I am getting interviews etc as soon as they ask if you are going away I think I am not being offered longer term jobs, so I have had mostly short term contract work.

I queried why he wanted to meet with me every fortnight which I believe is more their obligations I believe once a month is all they need. Even by their words is that I am having a good hit rate from applications.

Currently I have two casual positions and still applying for other jobs and getting interviews and doing online tests but he is still insisting on meeting with me every fortnight and its making it hard to fit that in around applying for my 20 odd jobs a month, work, interviews, online testing, online inductions for the new jobs.

Anyway this JNP has not done anything for me bar meet with for mins a fortnight to discuss my activity offering nothing in return. They have never let me know of any jobs going etc. I am not there to make YOU look good!!

Now I have a form to fill in for my newest employment and they are asking for my pay rate. They reakon it is so they can match what income I report. It has nothing to do with my JNP. Please correct me if I am wrong in my thinking. Pretty much if you are collecting any income support payment you can guarantee that the Dept of Employment Jobactive Provider will be pushing you into a job…. They dont care what you report to Centrelink, they are to verify and monitor your employment hence the Dept of Employment.

Remember you are a volunteer there, as you have voluntary gone on income support payments — no one held a gun to your head and made you go on income support payments, if you dont like it then get off it….

You think any of us WANT to rely on government money? You do realize the alternative is often homelessness right? Iv read a lot of people get jobs and within two months have lost them due to it being for a number of reasons…. Notice you wrote this in March but … every time you see a Job Provider they are paid by the Government. So the more they see you the more the Job Provider gets paid.

There needs to be a shake up of the whole system. The Job Providers are wasting tax payers money. This is untrue. Your JA provider receives a nominal administrative fee when they commence you onto their caseload.

They are then required to have contact appointments with you, the number per month varying depending on what Stream you are allocated, they do not receive a fee every time you come into the office. They are however, audited by the Department and if they have not met THEIR requirements a sanction can be applied by the Department which can include financial penalties. While you receive a New Start Allowance you will be required to be with a JA provider and you will have Mutual Obligations, that will not change regardless of which provider you are commenced with, so you are much better off working out a way to work together and making sure they are servicing you and helping you to the best of their ability.

If they are servicing you properly you should not be feeling bullied and you should have a understanding as to how a provider is meeting your requirements as well as their own. This is really concerning. Them tracking your income is what justifies them getting paid.

Annoys the hell out of me too given I always get the jobs without any help from them. No shello you took my job as dish bitch washer stop it you know whos credentials you are flying on ,you sound ridiculous ,,dont you?

Yes, you would think the fact that you have landed Casual work was enough. I lost a job a year ago due to Covid. Have 2 Casual jobs, and one is with a very large employer, filling in when people are away. I worked 36 Hours in one week, but also have a pain syndrome that crops up, depression and anxiety. Not, a private for profit sector. How the hek am I going to do that with numb Hands???? So I submitted my hours, including 4 days straight of 8 hour shifts that have destroyed me physically and mentally….

I have C-PTSD and have had mental health issues my whole life but I am determined to keep trying to find a job… I am with a provider and I finally got a job at the end of last year. I was able to turn up to the job and do the job to the best of my ability. I went to the job for several hours a week it was good to get that experience of showing up to work, taking orders, following through etc.

Unfortunately, they have me on the system as having to work 25 hours a week so my provider rang my new employers and harassed them into giving me 25 hours a week. Now the job was severely stressing me out. They were putting me on shifts at 10pm — 5am in the morning and my provider and employer were calling me during the day while I was sleeping to confirm shifts.

I started snapping at people and eventually was let go. The other day I went in to an appt with her and she asked if I was still looking for work. I said yes and she laughed in my face. First time in years I actually managed to get a job and have it work out for me and you — yes, you — screwed it up. Hence the trouble finding and keeping a job.

What am I supposed to do then? I wish I could stop them. And I get treated like shit. Anyways I put in a complaint about them because I just want to be able to look for jobs and be treated with dignity. Have you had a recent job capability assessment recently?

The job network provider cannot change what is in your job capability assessment. You should be having job capability assessment every 2 years, or so a Centrelink staff member told me at the end of last year. Omg There are other people out there in the same boat!!! The ones that need the most assistance to regain skills, support and training are the ones that fall through the cracks. Threats, intimidation, condescending remarks from service providers including the disability services are the new norm to push people over the edge.

Even if you were keen to find a job initially, once you are signed up to these places you start to lose self esteem, motivation, become anxious, feel panicky and humiliated. So to add to your woes now, you have to deal with psychological issues that may push you to isolation, loss of sleep, uncontrollable behaviours, anger, frustration, tears, attitude!!

The solution?? Beats me…. I thought that was the job for our government….. The job network system is a complete failure in every respect.

My last 4 case officers have also been either morbidly obese or extremely obese. If you talk to Centrelink staff, including senior staff, they all want to return to the days of the Commonwealth Employment Service. This would save billions of dollars and ease the epidemic of depression and dissatisfaction. Of course I wanna bloody work!

Is it true in Australia after years the job network can transfer you to another network? I am not willing to work in a second hand store, fold dirty clothes for 5 hours per day. Now that will boost my self esteem! After paying out of my own pocket for the cert IV. I want to find a job more than they want me to find one,! The should be some sort of law need to put in place to stop the bullying and harassment from job provider. Not every job seeker is useless or not want to work.

Job provider needs to assist their client with full understanding, willing to help appropriately and find the job that match individual circumstances, skills, experiences and ability that they can do and happy to do. The Government and Centrelink need to stop funding to bully, harassment, uneducated and lack of knowledgeable Job provider. There are so many job seeker who has worked and paid tax all their life but when they get older or sick or disability from injury at work, their redundant their job.

Therefore, they need to seek alternative job suitable with their disability, injuried and permanent ill health issues. Thank you. Scared of losing their govt funding. I am having a lot of issues with them. They never check how many jobs I applied for. I refuse to let them take credit for something I did by myself.

Yet they refused to help me get a security licence to be able to get work in an industry where I actually have experience in. Go figure. Finally land one do the right thing and tell them I working,Then next thing they asking for my payslips, I tell them its just on going casual work,But they want every detail.

For an employment agency to have the ability to cancel centrelink payment as their pleased is the scariest and most disgusting thing ever. Forced into a course, but then told to quit course to get a 30hr week job. Have provided medical certificates, but Campbell Page Job Service Provider expects my condition to disappear whenever they see me..

I cannot take any more of this. To think that my taxes for the last 20 years goes to pay these unqualified assholes to treat people like this makes me sick. How can I escape them?? The stress is constant because of them. In the past 3months was the maximum time it took me to find a job on my own.

Can anyone tell me of a GOOD job service provider? I completely understand you. I am pretty much on the same boat as you. Please, if you hear or find a employment agency that actually does something, share it with us. The pain and anguish you are all experiencing is deliberate. Labor represents the unions and liberal the corporates. Their primary allegiance is to the foreign corporate oligarchies that now govern Australia and rape our resources. The outcome is there are not enough jobs to go around, and the suppression of wages for local industries, exporters, and the large foreign corporate entities dominating our resources.

The service provider I have posts no jobs on their walls, offers no employment, and acts more like a parole office than an employment service provider. They even had me seeking twice the number of jobs required by centrelink. Australia is no more. We are all living in Glob-stralia!!! I have been given next to no support from any JNP. Whilst I found my own job on my own accord, they got extremely excited and offered me an incentive for the employer to sign.

I refused, as I got the job on my own without any help from them! They were fine with this response to my face. I reported my earnings and would go into JNP office on my own accord to give them the hours I was working as to infrom them encase they had an upcoming appointment.

My appointments were coinviently always placed on the days I was working and even the start time I was working, without a fail. They then proceeded to email me in my personal email constanly wanting my pay slips even though they had every single detail offered.

I had no help with petrol cost despite the fact they said they would help me, hence why I was letting them know the days and hours I was working. When it came time for my interview I was told to go to the opshop, even though in my first contact interview they state they can provide this assistance along with petrol. I loved my job and I respected the people and I know they respected me as I was good, honest and hard worker. She was loud and obvious. She was also making fun of another person based on their apperance.

Despite the fact then plenty of centrelink workers and JNP were once on the dole and even sponging on the dole by not following their job obligations in a legal and moral setting.

The audacity to look down their noses when their job consist of making appointments and changing appointments…There is no skill involved! Why is a government course 3 times higher than a private owned course?? The amount saved is small in comparison to the lost capital investment.

Perhaps, you will discover lots of money in savings available on every transaction to be worth the time and effort you need to put in. However, after being there for 45 mins. I hate going to GP for something that is not a big deal. I have been going to my JSP for the last 6 months. I have attended every appointment.

I attended my appointment on the 10th. The following week nothing much happened i kept applying for jobs but getting no-where. On the Friday the 17th i received a phone call from my JSP that they were going to put me in their Work for the Dole scheme. I said okay. She told me that the appointment is for today at I said fine. On the Saturday i was helping out with some volunteer work ,when i finished,i checked my phone and found a message from my JSP saying they had try to ring me and left a message.

I got straight on the phone and tried to ring her. All i got was a message that everyone was busy and to leave a message. I left a message asking to ring me back. I got home and checked and still no reply. I tried to ring again ,same thing everyone is busy. I again left a message. Yesterday morning i got a call to go for a job interview. I went to the interview and i was told i would find out later in the week if i was successful. I get home and there is a message from my JSP that because i didnt attend a interview my payment has been suspended.

I tried to ring again and still didnt get any reply.. I am going to try and ring today and find out what happended. I can only hope i get that job. It is ridiculous. Providers in the country towns can be a bit better but the ravenous vulture providers in the city are shameless criminals. I just finished working for a non for profit provider. I was made to book appointments without consulting the JS and put down it was made over the phone. I was bullied by management, txt sexual harassment messages by senior staff and told daily how bad I was at my job because I was treating it like a NFP.

This Job active provider was mine when I was unemployed for almost a year waiting for surgery. I have community service qualifications and also social work studies almost completed. They got a wage sub for me of k for employing me and also the 26 week outcome. The management is where the problem is with how the staff treat JS, staff are made to treat you like that, you get into trouble for being nice and caring.

Management turn staff against each other, the environment is horrible. Job Active should be shut down, unemployment should not be a commodity. I started planning my exit from this employer in February and then the pandemic hit so I had to play nice with management… I was reduced to tears many times because of the abuse I received. Also try typing in paragraphs, your spelling will get better as you will re read paragraphs and see that some words are off.

It must be hard but no one forces you to do it remember. Reading your comments, I noticed a few errors. She contradicts herself!!!

Hello back again. I want to stay with the same employment agency because of the level of support they offer and have had employment outcomes. They say even with the correct information it is too late. Now I have to front up to another agency, retell my story and provide all of my details even though I just landed a 6 month contract that was possible through the support I received from my previous agency.

According to jobactive it cannot be changed. Just nope…not even possible. I found a part time job, I reported my income to Centrelink and cancelled the appointment with my employment agency due to my work schedule.

I receive a phone all from my case manager telling me that he will reschedule another appointment because I need to sign some paperwork. Can I just ignore them and keep reporting my income to Centrelink. Thank you Joel. Thank you so much for your help.

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So have hope. Centrelink is a for profit, private corporation set up in the USA. The USA court system including their top court is a privately owned corporation as well, so in fact you can never win. You are enslaved. Earth is known as a slave planet and being forced into jobs against your will is in violation of every law, and will change soon.

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